Reloaded: The Limits Of Ignorance
Intellectual sloth-driven ignorance, lack of understanding (if not refusal to understand) and rejection of facts are the primary characteristics of religious fundamentalists, creationists and IDists.
They will also typically move the goalposts when they are engaged by someone who knows about such things as science and/or evolution - you know, like a scientist - and will likewise think themselves clever by asking distracting questions which only further demonstrate their profound lack of knowledge and understanding.
Not counting their exposed deficiencies in cognitive faculties.
And when they are rightly called out for their ignorance, they always react the same way: they condemn those who seek to make them see the facts as "arrogant", as "not knowing what they are talking about", as "ego-bloated intellectuals/academics" - and from there it all degenerate in further childish insults against those who called out their utter ignorance and refusal to acknowledge established facts in the first place.
Including deleting comments in order to misrepresent deleted comments so as to cast say, a scientist having made said comments, in a detrimental light (just one example of such tactic being exposed here, among so many out there).
They do these things because they can't win an argument based on facts - if only because they pretend that facts of the matter discussed just don't exist or that facts are "a matter of opinion".
Deficiencies in cognitive faculties indeed.
From there, they just can't let go. Their intellectual and emotional meltdown go to such extent that they do not even try to pretend anymore that they are reasonable thinking human beings "only trying to see the two sides of the equation" - as per the role they typically seek to cast themselves into.
Now, one might think that such folks are to be found exclusively on the right/far-right end of the political spectrum (again - just one example among many being exposed here).
Well ... looks like this is not the case, I'm afraid.
It began with this feuille de chou from a "prog blogger" - which essentially reiterated all of the typical ignorance-based talking points of creationists and IDists. After being called on it by yours truly in the comments section, the expected meltdown ensued in said comments section of the post, including deletion of comments (of which I managed to save most in a doc file, thus allowing for a more complete picture of the discussion - contact me if you wish to view it). The quite pathetic meltdown further continued in the comments over there.
All the typical "arguing" tactics of rightwingnuttery were fully used by this "prog blogger" - including outright dismissal of anyone who is a scientist, a professor and/or intellectual - because of course, those who know the facts are always trying to "impose their opinions" whenever they endeavor to affirm/establish/remind/indicate/point out said facts (anti-intellectualism, anyone?).
Being only human, I acknowledge that at one point I sort of took the figurative gloves off - but kept it rather contained to a comments section of my blog - as opposed to making an all out attack through a blogpost of my own.
Then came this follow-up piece of pure drivel. And now this other one, where the "prog blogger" in question rants about the "fanaticism" of "evolutionists" - all the while attempting to take side-swipes at yours truly ... only to yet further expose his/her own cognitive challenges.
I previously wrote an essay titled The Limits of Ignorance. What has been happening with this "prog blogger", including his ignorance-based (non)arguments, creationist/IDist non-factual talking points and overall behavior, are described almost to a T in this older post of mine - all you folks need to do is replace the name of known creationist David Warren in this essay with the name of said "prog blogger". Heck, even the same dismissive ignorance-based (non)arguments were actually used by our aforementioned "prog blogger" in his posts and elsewhere (see above) - the pretentious snide remark about "mice in the lab" being one obvious example.
Thus allowing me to state: Q.E.D.
And from there on, I refuse to further waste any time and/or blogging space with this intellectual sloth-driven, science-illiterate, pretentious ignoramus - after all, would you even bother to make this infamous, typical, pretentious ignoramus actually see reason?
However, I will express my puzzlement herein to the effect that each anti-evolution piece of drivel from this "prog blogger" actually managed to make the front page (through voting) of Progressive Bloggers.
Which in turn supports my contention that creationists/IDists are not exclusively a problem originating from the right/far-right end of the political spectrum - unfortunately, and sadly, enough.
Looks like our "reality-based" community has intellectual sloth-driven holes of ignorance in it ...
Addendum: although I doubt very much that this will turn out to be a "teaching moment" for our said "prog blogger", I nevertheless provide the following for free:
They will also typically move the goalposts when they are engaged by someone who knows about such things as science and/or evolution - you know, like a scientist - and will likewise think themselves clever by asking distracting questions which only further demonstrate their profound lack of knowledge and understanding.
Not counting their exposed deficiencies in cognitive faculties.
And when they are rightly called out for their ignorance, they always react the same way: they condemn those who seek to make them see the facts as "arrogant", as "not knowing what they are talking about", as "ego-bloated intellectuals/academics" - and from there it all degenerate in further childish insults against those who called out their utter ignorance and refusal to acknowledge established facts in the first place.
Including deleting comments in order to misrepresent deleted comments so as to cast say, a scientist having made said comments, in a detrimental light (just one example of such tactic being exposed here, among so many out there).
They do these things because they can't win an argument based on facts - if only because they pretend that facts of the matter discussed just don't exist or that facts are "a matter of opinion".
Deficiencies in cognitive faculties indeed.
From there, they just can't let go. Their intellectual and emotional meltdown go to such extent that they do not even try to pretend anymore that they are reasonable thinking human beings "only trying to see the two sides of the equation" - as per the role they typically seek to cast themselves into.
Now, one might think that such folks are to be found exclusively on the right/far-right end of the political spectrum (again - just one example among many being exposed here).
Well ... looks like this is not the case, I'm afraid.
It began with this feuille de chou from a "prog blogger" - which essentially reiterated all of the typical ignorance-based talking points of creationists and IDists. After being called on it by yours truly in the comments section, the expected meltdown ensued in said comments section of the post, including deletion of comments (of which I managed to save most in a doc file, thus allowing for a more complete picture of the discussion - contact me if you wish to view it). The quite pathetic meltdown further continued in the comments over there.
All the typical "arguing" tactics of rightwingnuttery were fully used by this "prog blogger" - including outright dismissal of anyone who is a scientist, a professor and/or intellectual - because of course, those who know the facts are always trying to "impose their opinions" whenever they endeavor to affirm/establish/remind/indicate/point out said facts (anti-intellectualism, anyone?).
Being only human, I acknowledge that at one point I sort of took the figurative gloves off - but kept it rather contained to a comments section of my blog - as opposed to making an all out attack through a blogpost of my own.
Then came this follow-up piece of pure drivel. And now this other one, where the "prog blogger" in question rants about the "fanaticism" of "evolutionists" - all the while attempting to take side-swipes at yours truly ... only to yet further expose his/her own cognitive challenges.
I previously wrote an essay titled The Limits of Ignorance. What has been happening with this "prog blogger", including his ignorance-based (non)arguments, creationist/IDist non-factual talking points and overall behavior, are described almost to a T in this older post of mine - all you folks need to do is replace the name of known creationist David Warren in this essay with the name of said "prog blogger". Heck, even the same dismissive ignorance-based (non)arguments were actually used by our aforementioned "prog blogger" in his posts and elsewhere (see above) - the pretentious snide remark about "mice in the lab" being one obvious example.
Thus allowing me to state: Q.E.D.
And from there on, I refuse to further waste any time and/or blogging space with this intellectual sloth-driven, science-illiterate, pretentious ignoramus - after all, would you even bother to make this infamous, typical, pretentious ignoramus actually see reason?
However, I will express my puzzlement herein to the effect that each anti-evolution piece of drivel from this "prog blogger" actually managed to make the front page (through voting) of Progressive Bloggers.
Which in turn supports my contention that creationists/IDists are not exclusively a problem originating from the right/far-right end of the political spectrum - unfortunately, and sadly, enough.
Looks like our "reality-based" community has intellectual sloth-driven holes of ignorance in it ...
Addendum: although I doubt very much that this will turn out to be a "teaching moment" for our said "prog blogger", I nevertheless provide the following for free:
Addendum II: proving the point indeed ... complete with typical, expected misrepresentations:
And so it goes (from Progressive Bloggers affiliates page 1, around 8:00 PM EST):
This mentalmegalomaniac (It is not my style to give publicity to kooks like him, but after all his hard work at buffoonery he deserves some) keeps saying he will not waste his time anymore on someone who dares to say anything blasphemous(in his mind) about evolution; yet he is consumed by it. He keeps writing comments to himself here vilifying me and seeking the help of Jesus or Jesus 900ft. My, an evolutionist seeking help from Jesus. Now he has written a whole post on this here. I wonder who is having a meltdown. I got more laughs out of this guy and his fanaticism than any comedy show I have seen in recent days – if that is melting down then be it.Q.E.D. yet again.
Now he is reprimanding Progressive Bloggers about why they include my posts and those who vote for my posts. Maybe I should inform Jon Stewart about this guy and he may have field day with it, but then Jon Stewart goes after significant people generally, not kooks.
And so it goes (from Progressive Bloggers affiliates page 1, around 8:00 PM EST):
There was an evolution and here is the proof.Click hereEnjoy. Sorry this video is not available for embedding. It is evolving. We will get there.
Please - do go on, LeDaro. Do go on ...
Don't be shocked by what you find on Prog Blogs. I've found anti-worker and climate change denial posts as well on Prog Blogs.
ReplyDeleteAye - and thanks for pointing it out. I bears keeping in mind indeed ...
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