Neocon Wet Dreams Are Fast Becoming Reality
With the Iraq and Afghanistan wars causing much chaos while encouraging increased insurgency and terrorism, with a confrontation against Iran looming, and with Pakistan now being likewise targeted by the rattling of American sabers, the rest of the Middle East is in turn gradually destabilizing, hopelessly caught in a sinking vortex that will lead ultimately to more war and chaos.
Let's cut through the mustard and all that jazz, here. We all know that in the fevered minds of the Bushies, their neocon supporters and their far-right fundamentalist Christian allies, this is all about two things, and two things only: hegemony of Christian fundamentalism and complete control of oil productivity.
In other words: defeat of Islam + fall of the Middle East = Holy American Empire.
Not convinced? Go read the neocon Manifest Destiny (look at the signatories at the bottom of the page and then delve through the site) - I will spare you the details here so that I may focus on the subject at hand.
To begin, let us see how things are currently standing in the usual Middle Eastern countries that we've come to know so well, shall we?
Afghanistan: I wrote recently an extensive analysis of the failures of this war - I will therefore not dwell again on it here. Suffice it to say that the Taliban and al-Qaeda have grown back in strenght, the elected Karzai government's hold on power is tenuous at best while the power of the Warlords is a good as it ever was, the N.A.T.O. tactics and approaches against the continuing insurgency kills more innocent civilians than insurgents, and that the Afghanis want the N.A.T.O. forces out of their country (understandably). With each day comes one more news item which further underlie this tragic and chaotic state of affairs in this still war-torn country. "Progress" there is stagnant at best or actually devolving. Nonetheless, there are those who remain insistent that the Afghanistan war has gone reasonably well ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Pakistan: The country has never been of much help (at all) against the Taliban and al-Qaeda, to begin with. Nonetheless, Pakistanis have been likewise suffering from increased Taliban and al-Qaeda violence and chaos (one recent example here). Not surprisingly, the Bush administration has threatened to launch attacks into Pakistani territory if it sees fit - as the N.A.T.O. forces in Afghanistan have already done. I bet some are quite happy at this prospect ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Iraq: Things are essentially the same as in Afghanistan, what with the ongoing insurgency and all - I don't think I really need to list the litany of failures and ongoing catastrophes occurring there, day in and day out. Case in point that "progress" there is devolving: Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr is creating his own parallel government and strenghtening his army, leaving the elected - but powerless - Maliki government to twist in the wind. Meanwhile, seven of the most important Sunni-led insurgent Iraqi organizations have agreed to form an alliance. This bodes very well for Iraq and the Americans, considering how the restraint and humanitarian acts of the Americans (two examples here and here - Yankee Go Home indeed) are appreciated, and considering the continuing love between Shiites and Sunnis (sarcasm aplenty here) ... Now can we call this a civil war, Mr. Kristol? At the same time, Turkey has amassed some 140000 troops at the border of northern Iraq and has already begun bombing operations across the border ... for the second time around. Obviously, Turkey as its eye on a prize in the inevitable disintegration of the country that will soon be Formerly-Known-As-Iraq. But why worry? All that chaos only means that victory is sure to come ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Iran: The rattling of sabers for a confrontation with Iran are becoming louder and louder with each new day, the neocons and Christian fundamentalists buzzing like angry bees over this - I've written about such rattling of sabers before (here, here, here and here), as many others did. Being sandwiched between Iraq (to the West) and Afghanistan (to the East/North-East), no wonder Iranians are feeling nervous, thus increasingly strenghtening the hold of Shiite fundamentalism in the country. Considering the recent Senate resolution against Iran and the increased presence of U.S. aircraft carriers in the crowed Persian Gulf, I keep expecting a Gulf of Tonkin-like incident or something similar to what happened with those British sailors - after all, if it's O.K. for Israel to bomb Lebanon back to the stone age for two soldiers being kept captive, what's to prevent the U.S. from doing the same to Iran for two or more of theirs as well ... right, Mr. Kristol?
And through it all, the Palestinian situation worsened while the rattling of sabers for a confrontation with Syria likewise continue unabetted. Through it all, terrorism and insurgency have been rising and causing death and chaos in Jordan (one example here), as in Saudi Arabia - of course. Same with Egypt. That'll teach these countries for their "indifference" with regards to the Global Struggle Against Radical Islamism(TM) and the need for massive regime change in the region ... right, Mr. Kristol?
And so there we have it: the whole of the Middle East is gradually destabilizing, hopelessly caught in a sinking vortex that will lead ultimately to total war and chaos in the region.
All thanks not only to the disastrous American presence and incompetence in the Middle East, but also due to its own overt and covert fanning of the flames.
But through such fire, death and chaos, how will the Americans manage to seize control, you may ask? Surely there are not enough troops available, you say.
In response, I give you tactical nuclear missiles and bombs - with the justification in using them most likely being the same as the one advanced for their previous use: to spare tremendous American loss of lives and bring a fast resolution to the conflict.
No need for troops then, eh? And history has shown how quickly a powerful country and its proud people are willing to surrender unconditionally after being so bombed once or twice. Now, imagine how quickly the Middle Eastern peoples will surrender, when faced with similar atrocities.
Nonetheless, it will be then, and only then, that the wet dreams of the neocons and far-right Christian fundamentalists will have finally become reality - with the use of nuclear weapons included.
After all, this is all about their lust for a Holy American Empire ...
Right, Mr. Kristol?
(Cross-posted at DKos, at Suzie-Q, at Progressive Historians and at Diatribune)
Let's cut through the mustard and all that jazz, here. We all know that in the fevered minds of the Bushies, their neocon supporters and their far-right fundamentalist Christian allies, this is all about two things, and two things only: hegemony of Christian fundamentalism and complete control of oil productivity.
In other words: defeat of Islam + fall of the Middle East = Holy American Empire.
Not convinced? Go read the neocon Manifest Destiny (look at the signatories at the bottom of the page and then delve through the site) - I will spare you the details here so that I may focus on the subject at hand.
To begin, let us see how things are currently standing in the usual Middle Eastern countries that we've come to know so well, shall we?
Afghanistan: I wrote recently an extensive analysis of the failures of this war - I will therefore not dwell again on it here. Suffice it to say that the Taliban and al-Qaeda have grown back in strenght, the elected Karzai government's hold on power is tenuous at best while the power of the Warlords is a good as it ever was, the N.A.T.O. tactics and approaches against the continuing insurgency kills more innocent civilians than insurgents, and that the Afghanis want the N.A.T.O. forces out of their country (understandably). With each day comes one more news item which further underlie this tragic and chaotic state of affairs in this still war-torn country. "Progress" there is stagnant at best or actually devolving. Nonetheless, there are those who remain insistent that the Afghanistan war has gone reasonably well ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Pakistan: The country has never been of much help (at all) against the Taliban and al-Qaeda, to begin with. Nonetheless, Pakistanis have been likewise suffering from increased Taliban and al-Qaeda violence and chaos (one recent example here). Not surprisingly, the Bush administration has threatened to launch attacks into Pakistani territory if it sees fit - as the N.A.T.O. forces in Afghanistan have already done. I bet some are quite happy at this prospect ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Iraq: Things are essentially the same as in Afghanistan, what with the ongoing insurgency and all - I don't think I really need to list the litany of failures and ongoing catastrophes occurring there, day in and day out. Case in point that "progress" there is devolving: Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr is creating his own parallel government and strenghtening his army, leaving the elected - but powerless - Maliki government to twist in the wind. Meanwhile, seven of the most important Sunni-led insurgent Iraqi organizations have agreed to form an alliance. This bodes very well for Iraq and the Americans, considering how the restraint and humanitarian acts of the Americans (two examples here and here - Yankee Go Home indeed) are appreciated, and considering the continuing love between Shiites and Sunnis (sarcasm aplenty here) ... Now can we call this a civil war, Mr. Kristol? At the same time, Turkey has amassed some 140000 troops at the border of northern Iraq and has already begun bombing operations across the border ... for the second time around. Obviously, Turkey as its eye on a prize in the inevitable disintegration of the country that will soon be Formerly-Known-As-Iraq. But why worry? All that chaos only means that victory is sure to come ... right, Mr. Kristol?
Iran: The rattling of sabers for a confrontation with Iran are becoming louder and louder with each new day, the neocons and Christian fundamentalists buzzing like angry bees over this - I've written about such rattling of sabers before (here, here, here and here), as many others did. Being sandwiched between Iraq (to the West) and Afghanistan (to the East/North-East), no wonder Iranians are feeling nervous, thus increasingly strenghtening the hold of Shiite fundamentalism in the country. Considering the recent Senate resolution against Iran and the increased presence of U.S. aircraft carriers in the crowed Persian Gulf, I keep expecting a Gulf of Tonkin-like incident or something similar to what happened with those British sailors - after all, if it's O.K. for Israel to bomb Lebanon back to the stone age for two soldiers being kept captive, what's to prevent the U.S. from doing the same to Iran for two or more of theirs as well ... right, Mr. Kristol?
And through it all, the Palestinian situation worsened while the rattling of sabers for a confrontation with Syria likewise continue unabetted. Through it all, terrorism and insurgency have been rising and causing death and chaos in Jordan (one example here), as in Saudi Arabia - of course. Same with Egypt. That'll teach these countries for their "indifference" with regards to the Global Struggle Against Radical Islamism(TM) and the need for massive regime change in the region ... right, Mr. Kristol?
And so there we have it: the whole of the Middle East is gradually destabilizing, hopelessly caught in a sinking vortex that will lead ultimately to total war and chaos in the region.
All thanks not only to the disastrous American presence and incompetence in the Middle East, but also due to its own overt and covert fanning of the flames.
But through such fire, death and chaos, how will the Americans manage to seize control, you may ask? Surely there are not enough troops available, you say.
In response, I give you tactical nuclear missiles and bombs - with the justification in using them most likely being the same as the one advanced for their previous use: to spare tremendous American loss of lives and bring a fast resolution to the conflict.
No need for troops then, eh? And history has shown how quickly a powerful country and its proud people are willing to surrender unconditionally after being so bombed once or twice. Now, imagine how quickly the Middle Eastern peoples will surrender, when faced with similar atrocities.
Nonetheless, it will be then, and only then, that the wet dreams of the neocons and far-right Christian fundamentalists will have finally become reality - with the use of nuclear weapons included.
After all, this is all about their lust for a Holy American Empire ...
Right, Mr. Kristol?
(Cross-posted at DKos, at Suzie-Q, at Progressive Historians and at Diatribune)



















































29 POVs/Comments:
First, let me say I fully agree with you that an aggressive U.S. policy on Iran (air strike, etc.) will do nothing but further exascerbate regional instability.
But I think you misunderstand what the neoconservative agenda is (Project for a New American Century and all). It is not to use nuclear weapons, spread Christianity, or even defeat Islam in itself (although they often seem to be advocating this). The doctrine is more of a social engineering project, incredibly flawed if you ask me, that thinks the use of U.S. military force can remove dictators and radicals (Hussein or Ahmadinejad), therefore provoking widespread social change and democratization (a la Japan and Germany), that, as seen in post-war Europe, will ensure peace and stability in the long-run. This would be in the U.S.'s interest, because stability of government and markets will reduce the need for future intervention and will ensure that oil is allocated according to market forces, not the whims of anti-American politicians.
If neoconservative foreign policy is understood in these terms, and that by far is the intellectual justification for it, then the neocons are far from seeeing their "wet dreams" become reality. In fact, the instability in Afghanistan (far sensationalized if you ask me, the South is the only area that would roughly look like Iraq at this point) and Iraq (truly a mess) only goes to show how naive their theories were. The ranks of the neocons continue to dwindle as their lofty goals of peace and democracy in the Mid East remain unfulfilled.
So while I'm with you on the danger of neoconservative foreign policy, your evaluation of their intentions comes off as over cynical, to the point that your valid critique comes off as a partisan slur. You can't actually believe that the present state of affairs was desired? For a parallel, did Mao want to slaughter millions of his own people? Or was it simply the by-product of some well-intentioned "theory"? I think the latter sums up both Mao and the neocon's catastrophe.
Agreed, true liberal. But do not discount the far-right Christian fundamentalists in the equation, as well the well-known continued stance of the neocons in supporting further war.
The two together signify a desire for a Holy American Empire ... brought about by war, chaos and nuclear fire.
Having said this, I sincerely hope to be proven wrong!
OK, I buy the argument that the fundamentalist christians may see this coming clash as some kind of divine destiny, but the actual foreign policy elites who have a significant role in policy making, are generally of the more secular type (in the sense that their theory is based in political science, not theology).
Again, true liberal, agreed! ;-
However, let us not forget that PNAC not only supports a strong maintenance of the US nuclear arsenal, but have expressed no qualms at keeping "all options on the table" in the recent past ...
Kristol and the PNAC should be behind bars for war crimes!
Great article Mentarch! ;)
Sorry, Furgaia, but the whole "Zionism conspiracy" thing just doesn't fly - and while everyone is welcome to comment here at APOV (provided, of course, that contributions to the conversation/discussion are actually made), I am not one to tolerate, let alone enable, anti-semitism (or any racism, for that matter) in any way, shape or form.
Let's stick to reality, shall we? We all know how bad it is enough, currently ...
Your blog, your call! I respect that.
And I respect (and applaud) your healthy attitude in response! ;-)
Mentarch, this is just a test to see whether my Google profile is working. I've just corrected it since the previous one was incomplete. The one above is no longer working. I would not want anyone to think that I erased it on purpose. Thanks for bearing with me on this one. Won't be bothering you again. Cheers!
True Liberal, I always thought that PNAC's plan to bring democracy to various nations was really a smokescreen - I believed that their real agenda was global control of oil reserves.
Mentarch, I really hope you are wrong on the final direction. I seem unable to give up hope that Bush, Cheney, et al will be stopped.
Good post. I like "neocon wetdreams." I think "Christian" fanatics are playing a huge role in some of these neocon groups. Whether their leaders are actually Christians or not, they're working closely with Big Business, with each group helping the other.
Who Hijacked Our Country
Furgaia: no problem whatsover - and to repeat what I said previously: you are always welcome to comment, provided you (like everyone else) contribute positively and/or constructively to the conversation! ;-)
Jood: I to am holding on to hope - and that is why I am *begging*/*hoping* to be proven wrong ...
Tom: exactly! Hence why I put them together herein ... ;-)
This is a dangerous game being played out right now. We must look at Iraq and know that they are better off without America standing in between what will surely happen whenever we leave.
Al Qaeda want be a problem for them, they will be a problem to one another.
Turkey can cause a lot of trouble in the North of Iraq and let's not forget they are nuclear capable.
Thanks to England, America and France, Israel can start trouble with Iran. I think that is why America has intervened, to keep Israel from using their nuclear capabilities on Iran. This would cause more trouble than not.
Afghanistan is just an area that only the taliban see value and America must do all it can with the help of the UN to keep them at bay.
There are so many countries that have nuclear capabilities that I focus a lot of attention at Pakistan who along with India have nuclear capabilities.
Pakistan has all kind of trouble. One can never say when their might be a new President there or when and if Al Qaeda might end up with Pakistan nuclear capabilities.
America has started a fire by going in the wrong direction and allowing greed to make their decisions and control their acts.
Let's Talk: Yup! Through willful desires of grandiose holy imperial dreams, as well as through short-sighted expediency and utter incompetence ...
Nevertheless, all is gradually and incrementally destabilizing in the Middle East ... and I can only hope that this will not lead to the use of nuclear weapons ...
(still keeping my fingers crossed)
Excellent summation, mentarch. However, I disagree with your agreement of furgaia's disagreement.
It is creating Mideast chaos that motivates the PNAC. Chaos is required as cover for murder and theft. If the Neo goal was to convert followers of a proud and ancient religion to Christanity, the principles of Christ would be the method.
I wish that you had left furgaia's comment so that I could see what caused you to equate speaking against militant Zionism with anti-semitic and racist speech.
Still, a very informative read.
Back in 2003 when I was involved in politics forums and chat rooms with Americans I was struck by how many conservative chatters endorsed the use of Nuclear weapons against countries in the middle east. I always pictured these people as toothless wackjob sitting in a 1965 airstream dreaming of ICBM launches. At the time I thought that only a truly disturbed person would promote the use of nuclear weapons against the civilians of a country that had not attacked the US.
How times have changed. I can very well picture Cheney and Bush chatting about "tactical nuclear strikes" with a damn the consequences attitude. Mentarch, I hope you are wrong but there is no point arguing your point because it is a valid one.
Mirth: OK ... you asked for it:
http://www.uruknet.info/?p=34450
;-)
Psychols: you and me both - I do so hope that I am flat out, way off wrong ... and, oh, how I will rejoice at being proven wrong indeed!
Mentarch, without further diverting the subject of this thread I will say that not only do I agree with the post you provided the link to, so do historians, most notably Israeli historians, Ilan Pappe to name one, and neither I not he are racist or anti-semitic.
Thank you for the link and please excuse the disruption.
Mirth: I admit, I may have been a bit too "quick" and "sentitive" on this ... I sincerely apologize, especially to you, Furgaia.
And Mirth - thanks for your insistence on this! I do appreciate it! ;-)
Nonetheless, I reiterate that I will ever remain watchful for anything remotely racist in nature in the comments (albeit, with a drastically more cooler head approach) ... in my book, that is the competent thing to do ;-)
Thanks a million, Mirth! I was a bit tired yesterday and did not feel like arguing the point with Mentarch ... which caused me to feel very lousy all day today as I later became aware that my throwing in the towel was a disservice to all those who are struggling for a just peace in that region. I am extremely grateful to you.
Mentarch, no harm done. I posted an entry on my blog on this subject. It was up to me to be less cryptic here (a fault of mine, I'm afraid) and do what Mirth just did.
Mentarch, I hugely admire your watchful eye for racist and anti-semitic commenters and I do the same at LM. Israel is a very hot topic, but until we can all look less passionately and less judgmentally at the issues surrounding Israel's actions, lovers of peace will continue to lose against the forces that keep us divided. Diva Jood and I have opposite opinions regarding Israel, but through thoughtful and polite conversations, each of us firm in our beliefs, we discovered we share the same hopes and in the process of this we have formed a deep and rich friendship, one that might not have been possible if we had not looked below the surface.
Again, apologies for diverting this important thread topic.
Furgaia: I too was (dead) tired - hence my ... I dare say "incompetent" ... all-too quick reaction. ;-)
(I'm only human, after all! LOL)
However, and thanks to Mirth's enlightened insistence, I did the *competent* thing and read fully the article of that link you wanted to make all of us aware of - very informative! Thank you very much! ;-)
And I'm glad there's no hard feelings on your part - my bad again ... big time! ;-)
To err is human, they say ... but to recognize one's mistakes *and* own up to them is ... competence.
Good thing I try to heed my own long-winded opinings (LOL) ;-)
Mirth: why apologize for doing *the* right thing, eh? No apologies required, nor expected! ;-)
And I would dare add that you did not divert anything at all - all in all, it all fits into the (Middle East) equation, eh? :-D
(P.S. I fully agree that Israel is far from being "just" a victim here - hence why I bring back its barbarous actions of last summer against Lebanon whenever I have the opportunity - the way they destroyed Lebanon was utter incompetence - the Sixth Principle in full, ulgyand tragic action).
Most welcome, furgaia.
No resolution can come without open and frank discussions. No longer can we be silenced for fear of the terrible label of anti-semitic, which no honorable person is.
Mirth: hear, hear!
Mirth, well said. Anti-semitism exists but it is distinct from criticism of Israel. It is easy to confuse the two, particularly on the Internets where we often tend to type things as if we were chatting live. Congrats Mentarch for responding to Mirth and acting so quickly to clear up the confusion about the deleted post.
hegemony of Christian fundamentalism and complete control of oil productivity.
Channeling Dr. Parenti, eh?
I found your post fascinating.
Thank you for sharing. It is, in my opinion, the truth. I would say that those claiming to want to bring "Christianity" to the Middle East are nothing more than liars. They are about power and money. I am not a Christian and methinks neither are they, at least not to what I've managed to glean from the supposed teachings of Jesus.
The whole thing makes me want to hurl dinner. Piety, hypocrisy, criminality.
"Piety, hypocrisy, criminality."
Aye - this rather summarizes things up indeed ...
Post a Comment
Please feel free to comment on APOV. However, remember to keep in check your tone and respect for all here. Let rational, reasoning, enthousiastic and passionate conversations and discussions rule first and foremost in our participatory democracy, so as to facilitate the free exchange of reality-based facts and ideas. In between, do not forget to have fun and enjoy yourselves ... in other words: keep on rockin'! - Mentarch